Nick Patavalis ([info]npat) wrote,
@ 2004-08-13 17:45:00
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there's no such thing as "the death of an idea"

One could think that the famous lambda papers, and especially the one about the (theoretical?) possibility of constructing a Lisp-CPU, would have been forgoten. Or at most, treated as historical curiosities. What else could one expect for acid-fumed texts with psychedelic titles like:

Design of LISP-based Processors, or SCHEME: A Dielectric LISP, or Finite Memories Considered Harmful, or LAMBDA: The Ultimate Opcode

Fortunatelly, it seems that hope springs eternal in the hearts of young hackers, and that even present-day hardcore VHDLers are not ipervious to the muses of the old:

This is the architecture for a Lisp CPU, which should fit in a small FPGA, like the one used in the Spartan-3 Starter Kit. With "Lisp CPU" I mean that the core evaluates a binary form of s-expressions without compiling it to a lower machine code level, like described in Design of LISP-Based Processors [...] My goal is not a full featured Common Lisp implementation, but a Lisp dialect which is good enough for writing applications like games, without the need to do all the low-level handlings like in C. While the application logic will be written in Lisp, special hardware functions and performance critical tasks, like sound generation, will be implemented in hardware and available with primitive Lisp functions.




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[info]lornemir
2004-08-13 09:34 am UTC (link)
ahhh that was so beyond me. I still like reading what you post though. Ummm I can hang with tomshardware talk and anandtech but that's about it. No, I have not purchased a computer since I got a gateway 386. Yes, I have used linux and I believe it is vastly superior to Windows but I still use windows because it has ALL the games.

/justifying my right to read your posts.
/may hit you up for help when I try to OC my new system.

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[info]npat
2004-08-13 02:53 pm UTC (link)

No, I have not purchased a computer since I got a gateway 386.

Regarding purchasing computers, I guess we're similar: I have kept my last laptop until the plastic of the case started dissolving!

may hit you up for help when I try to OC my new system.

Sure thing. Especially if its one based on a Lisp-CPU! :-)

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[info]lornemir
2004-08-13 02:59 pm UTC (link)
wait, what's a Lisp-CPU? :0

ahh yes, I have some cases that have been kicked and spat on. I'm still sporting a 7 year old keyboard. I replace the internals though.

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[info]xach
2004-08-17 07:28 am UTC (link)
Tom Knight's thesis from the same year descirbed the CONS lisp machine, which was actually built and was the first generation of what folks usually call Lisp Machines. Two companies, Symbolics and Lisp Machines Inc, were spun off from his work, and made ever-faster real life Lisp CPUs.

Mikel Evins, who worked on Apple's Lisp-based Newton OS back in the day, is working on an interesting project to build a lisp-specific VM; see Rainer Joswig's news for more details. Not hardware based, though.

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[info]npat
2004-08-17 11:30 am UTC (link)
Of course I knew about Tom Knight, LMI and Symbolics. I didn't, though, know that Newton had been Lisp-based. I'm reading the Mikel Evins interviews at the moment; very interesting stuff. Thanks for the links

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